love is a puer which is an archetype of immortal youth. Love according to Agathon is the youngest god that was born to hate old age and will come nowhere near it. My question is where does Hermes fit it all of this because he is suppose to be the baby god. If he heard about love being the youngest I think he might throw a fit. Love makes his home in souls of men and gods wiht soft characters. Love is flowerly, fluent, and fragrant. Love promotes justice, moderation, bravery and wisdom and not even the great Apollo who invented archery, medicine, prophecy or the the Muses who invented music ignore the pleasure and power of love.
Diotima

Agathon
teaches Socrates about love. She assumes love is something between wisdom and beauty and ignorance and ugly, or betweenn man and god.
She believes that at Aphrodite's birth celebration Penia and Poros concieved love which was born to serve Aphrodite.

Diotima asks Socates a few questions about love.
What us is love to humans?
What is the point of loving beautiful things?
What does a man have when beautiful things have become his own?
At the end of these series of questions Diotima claims its not love humans and gods seek but the desire for happiness.

Immortailty: people really want good to be theirs forever
-preserve knowledge
-departing aging leaves behind something new
-Antigone acted for the sake of immortal virue and the glorious fame
Body/soul: No one can give birth to anything ugly or unharmonious
-beauty is in harmony with the divine
pregnant in soul (with wisdom and virtue)
makes co. with beautiful bodies>concieves birth to knowledge that has
been carried inside waiting to be released

(knowledge being shared)









Homer, Hesiod [Shakespeare] and other poets have envy and admiration for the offspring they left behind









"The love of the gods belongs to anyone who has given birth to virtue and nourished it, and if any human being could become immortal, it would be he."

In a story by Lord Byron from the romantic period of the 18th century Manfred is a man that believes himself better than the rest of society. He talks to the gods and has interactions with them like no other human being. He doesn't become immortal but comes very close. That is what this quote reminded me of.